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Our New Bus Conversion and Tips On How To Get It Right The First Time

February 4, 2021 by Claire Edwards Leave a Comment

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We’ve done it again! We have sold our much loved Toyota Coaster, and decided to do a new bus conversion on our Mercedes Vario. You may thinking why? Well after living in it full time for almost 18 months, there were a few things we decided really didn’t work for us. Rather than trying to fix them, we decided to sell up, and start again! Read below to see what kind of bus we bought and why, what we will be doing differently, and bus conversion tips to help you get it right the first time.

The New Bus

Our new bus is a 1997 Mercedes Vario. It is a 4.2 litre, 4 cyclinder turbo diesel automatic.

It is approximately 7.8 metres long, with an internal height of 1.9 metres and a width of 2.1 metres at the floor, and even wider at the windows.

So not only is it longer, but taller and wider than the Coaster. This will allow Shane to stand up freely, and for us to have a much wider hallway. We never imagined how much extra space that little bit of length and width would give us. Oh and its automatic – Shane can finally drive it! And maybe even one day get his licence 😉

roaming on rubber - bus conversion tips - mercedes vario

So why did we decide to sell our Toyota Coaster and get a Mercedes Vario?

Office space –

The first and foremost reason we decided to do a new bus conversion was because of the office space. Both Shane and I are constantly using our laptops for this blog, our YouTube series, and study. Shane has also continued to work remotely 3 days per week as an IT Technician. In the planning of our Toyota Coaster bus, the office space was an afterthought. We had a fold up dining table which Shane would use, but no space for an office chair. The solution was a boat chair mounted to our lounge for Shane, and I ended up doing everything whilst sitting on the lounge. This was not convenient, or comfortable! Not planning this was a poor decision, and the office space should have been at the forefront of our minds considering how much we require it.

We could have remodelled the Toyota Coaster to fit a better office space in however, after thinking long and hard we decided that to do that we would be compromising too much on our lounge and dining areas. We felt as though a slightly bigger bus with a better layout would be better.

In our new Mercedes Vario, a larger, more comfortable office space has been in the plans from the very beginning. We are going to ensure there is a large enough desk for both of us, as well as having comfortable office chairs. The plan is to find office chairs that can be used throughout the day, and stored underneath the desk when not in use. 

Thin hallway –

When we were building our Toyota Coaster, we were trying to think about the layout as much as possible. We tried to build it in a way that made sense – starting from the back; bedroom, closet, bathroom, kitchen, with living area at the front. What this meant though was the two largest things (the bathroom and fridge) were almost opposite each other.

This caused a very small entrance to the hallway and made it feel quite claustrophobic.

Not only did it feel very tight, but it meant that we had two very large walls right near the entrance of our home. This closed the entire bus off.

roaming on rubber - bus conversion tips - Toyota Coaster

The idea for the new bus is to have the larger things (fridge and bathroom) on the same side. Whilst this is not as appealing as having the fridge on the same side as the kitchen, we believe the benefits of space will overcome this.

We have also arranged for any internal walls to be as close to the rear of the bus as possible. By doing this, we hope the bus will feel a lot more open and not so claustrophobic!

In all honesty, these were the two main things that we wanted different that were enough for us to build a new bus. Even though these were the primary things, there were other things we have decided to change in the new bus. 

Things we want to do differently

Dinette –

In our Toyota Coaster, we had a small drop down table that was used as a dining table/office area. Whilst it was handy to use as a table, it was not in a convenient location that could be used to actually eat at. The plan for the new bus is to have a removable table top and leg that will be stored in the lounge. It can come out when necessary and be used along with the lounge to eat at. We will also have captains swivel chairs in this bus as the driver and passenger chairs. The same removable table top and leg will have a position in between the swivel chairs for a more formal dinette area.

Lounge –

Our previous lounge had all the bells and whistles; slide out to make a single bed, lift up for storage, and lift up foot rest. The problem was it had so much going on, that it was too much! It ended up being difficult to use, hard to access the storage, and we gave up on the foot rest idea. We had custom cut foam, and had covers made up to fit. It was very expensive, and after a long time sitting on it, it became uncomfortable.

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The new bus will be much more simple. It will just be a lounge with storage. It will house our hot water system, cat litter, and our fold down table. We will have 2 small collapsible ottomans, so they can be put down and stored when not in use.

The lounge cushions will be thicker on the base, and we will have large softer cushions for the back.

Kitchen –

Kick panel. Omg we need a kick panel! In our Toyota Coaster, the idea of a kick panel seemed like wasted space. However, after opening the cupboards endlessly on our toes, we can definitely see the need for a kick panel! And now realise why it is called a ‘kick panel’…

Even though it takes up space, we have plans to have our air conditioner come up from under the bus into the kick panel area, at least then it is hidden from the inside. So still useable space!

All of our cupboards will have either drawers, or slide out storage; making everything much easier to access.

We have decided to buy a flatpack Kaboodle kitchen from Bunnings this time rather than build it ourselves. Whilst it is heavier, it will save us a lot of time, effort and surprisingly money to do it this way.

Our bus conversion tips; how do you get it right the first time?

Consider your bus size, plan and priorities –

Before even buying your bus, draw up some plans and work out how much space you will need, and what you want to have in your bus.

You might find that if you will be living in your bus full time, your needs may be different than if you are just using it for travel. For example, you may want a full toilet, shower and kitchen. Consider whether you will be staying in remote places and need to be off grid, or will primarily be staying in caravan parks. This will determine if you need a generator/solar, batteries and onboard water storage.

If you will be working in your bus, or like to do a lot of things online, do not underestimated your office space! Prioritise it. Comfortable seating and a good work area is a must.

What are your hobbies, or interests? Make sure you have the room to store things if you need to, or plan your design around them. Don’t leave anything to the last minute like we did.

We have a helpful planning guide here if you want to have a read in more detail 🙂

Photo of drawn up plan for our Toyota Coaster bus conversion. Roaming on rubber- things you should know before doing a bus conversion

Don’t overcomplicate things!

One of our biggest bus conversion tips is don’t overcomplicate things! It may sound simple, but when you have limited space you may find you are trying to squeeze as much in as possible. Sometimes this just makes it too hard, takes too long, costs too much and doesn’t always work out. The saying “keep it simple” really is relevant here.

We have spoken to other people who have done their own bus conversions, and most agree that generally when something is too complicated, it ends up not being used.

Learn tips from others –

If you have an idea, you can pretty much guarantee someone else out there has had it too! There are so many great forums, blogs and pages like this that have tonnes of bus conversion tips, information and ideas. And like us, not all of them have worked and we all learn from each other.

Don’t be afraid to message people directly and ask their opinion, ideas, or what they would have done differently. Most people love to share their knowledge in the hopes it will help someone.

Also, check out our in depth guide “Things you should know before starting a bus conversion“. We discuss budget, time to build, planning, buying a bus, licenses and more!

So now that we have sold our Toyota Coaster, we are well on our way to completing our Mercedes Vario. It has been a big change, but so far are glad we have done it. We hope that these bus conversion tips have helped you to get it right the first time, and avoid having to do a whole new build like us. If you have any questions or comments, feel free to send them through 🙂

Filed Under: Bus Conversion Guides, Conversion How-To Tagged With: bus conversion, bus conversion budget, bus conversion ideas, bus conversion tips, bus floor plan, bus to motorhome, motorhome conversion, school bus conversion, school bus floor plan, school bus kitchen, school bus lounge, school bus motorhome, school bus rv

Toyota Coaster Motorhome Conversion – Building Your School Bus Lounge

November 7, 2018 by Claire Edwards 2 Comments

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Everything needs to have 2 uses. That has been our thought process along this entire journey. There are so many options for motor home or bus lounges, which meant there was a lot of inspiration when designing our lounge. Our school bus lounge has not 1, not 2, but 3 uses!

Building a lounge is not something you have to do. There are a lot of pre-fabricated options available and a lot of places will be able to custom make one for you. We have seen a fair few people who use these and have no issues.

As with everything we have done so far, we decided to build our lounge for a few reasons; cost, space, storage and design. In our school bus floor plan, we explain that our lounge was very important to us and we knew we could get exactly what we wanted if we built it ourselves.

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The design for our school bus lounge –  

The first step for the lounge framing is to work out what you want from it.

The most obvious function is a seating area. We want it big enough to comfortably sit both of us, and an extra 1-2 people if we have visitors. It also has to be big enough that we would be comfortable, and could stretch out when watching a movie. We then decided to add an ottoman which will provide extra foot space, and also double as storage and a seat.

Toyota Coaster school bus conversion - building your school bus lounge

Storage is the next most important thing. With everything you build in your school bus conversion, storage has to be a consideration, and under the lounge is a perfect area . We had planned where our appliances were going so knew that the height and width of our lounge had to meet the size of our Suburban hot water system which we had decided to place underneath. There is then more room left over for other items that need storing, as well as the extra in the ottoman. 

suburban hot water system - toyota coaster school bus conversion - school bus lounge framing

Most builds we found either choose seat and storage, or seat and sleeping area. We wanted it all, so we designed our lounge so that it could perform all 3 functions! Our original plan was to have it extend so that we could turn it into a doubled bed. We didn’t have enough space to make a double bed, but we did manage to make it extend to the size of a single bed which is sufficient. It also means that while we are watching a movie or just relaxing, we can extend this and have a bigger space to relax for ourselves also.

Toyota Coaster school bus conversion - building your school bus lounge

How were we going to achieve this? The base (where we sit) would have interlocking panels that would separate and slide out to become the bed. It would then have hinges to lift the entire base up to access the hot water and storage underneath. We then decided to have the front lift so we have a partial foot recliner as well. It was such a complicated design but we managed to make our lounge frame work.

Confusing? Let us get into more detail.

Building our school bus lounge – The base frame  

First we used 35mm x 70mm timber, and built the initial base frame, which provides the structural support and attaches to the floor and wall. We used 50mm wood screws as well as wood glue to make the joins secure. We started with the floor pieces, then attached the uprights followed by the top pieces.

Toyota Coaster school bus conversion - building your school bus lounge

The Interlocking System 

The base frame was the easy part. Planning out the interlocking slide out system was the difficult part. Shane and I wanted it to be separated in half, so that they could pull apart and extend separately to make a corner lounge, and together to make a bed. This would also allow them to lift separately to access different areas of storage. These interlocking pieces were made using 19mm X 64mm dress pine.

Toyota Coaster bus conversion - lounge framing

Every second slat is referred to as ‘fixed slats’. These are attached to a row of dress pine, and fixed at the back with hinges. The front end of the slats are attached to another piece of dress pine on the inside of the lounge frame. As we want the slats to lift up to access storage, they had to attach to something that was not attached to the base frame. This is why we have added these additional pieces of dress pine.

Toyota Coaster bus conversion - lounge framing

The pieces that slide out are also attached to a piece of pine, on the outside of the frame. This piece keeps all the slats together as one, when being slid out. If you look at the picture below, two of the slats are made longer. When the lounge is pushed together, these longer pieces sit on the edge of the lounge and prevent the slide out pieces from falling down.

Toyota Coaster bus conversion - lounge framing

These longer pieces continued to get stuck on the edge of the frame when we pushed the lounge back together, which can be seen in the video. We ended up placing a washer underneath the longer pieces which lifted them slightly. We also sanded back the edge that they sit on, providing a rounded lip, rather than a corner. This has prevented them from getting caught and allows them to slide and sit in together without issues. 

Toyota Coaster bus conversion - lounge framing

After this, we added a smaller piece of wood cut to size which is fixed in between the two sliding halves. This provides a guide so that they slide out straight and prevents them getting stuck. 

Toyota Coaster bus conversion - lounge framing

The ‘Recliner’

The front of our lounge has been made using 12mm ply. It provides the ground support when the lounge is extended for the bed. As our lounge ended up being slightly shorter than we wanted, we joined this 12mm ply on with hinges. When lifted up, a small 20cm piece of dress pine (also attached with hinges), falls down from underneath, propping the front 12mm piece of ply up on a slight angle. This gives us our ‘recliner’. 

Toyota Coaster bus conversion - lounge framing

Our back rests are made with 35mm X 70mm wood, cut into the base frame. We then attached 12mm ply to the front of them, which provides the back rest.

We will use Dunlop foam for all of the lounge cushioning. This cushioning we will get custom cut to size and then we will make covers for the cushions ourselves.

After building our kitchen frame, the lounge was a huge step in our Toyota Coaster bus framing and we are so amazed we were able to pull it off.

The more we build ourselves and the more experienced we get, the better things worked. As hard as it has been to do on our own it has been worth it.

If you haven’t already, watch our video below of our build and let us know what you think.

Filed Under: Conversion How-To, Toyota Coaster Bus Conversion Tagged With: bus conversion, bus life, motorhome lounge, school bus conversion, school bus lounge, toyota coaster conversion, toyota coaster home, toyota coaster motorhome

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This year has been a massive roller coaster for us. We’ve lost loved ones, our bus is still at the mechanic which isn’t looking to change soon, and our run-around car just recently died. But we have also just gotten married and got to surprise everyone with the announcement that we will soon be welcoming another member to the Roaming on Rubber family.

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We’ve had a few setbacks so been a little quite We’ve had a few setbacks so been a little quite recently but we are almost finished! Cleaned for the valuation so thought we’d give you a look. Let us know what you think!
Not much work to go now! We just need to finish t Not much work to go now! 
We just need to finish the bathroom, build a kitchen overhead, add some trim and doors, and do a bunch of painting. Surely that won't take too long? 😂😂😂

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Sorry for the delay in posting! We have been so bu Sorry for the delay in posting! We have been so busy building the bus it has put us a little behind with our updates.
But our new desk is in! 
Made from the same Vic Ash wood as our kitchen bench, this beauty is long enough for us to both share the space 😊

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We loved our old wooden roof in the coaster so hav We loved our old wooden roof in the coaster so have just finished installing the same panneling in the Vario.

Plan is to paint it white this time rather then staining it.

Putting this in has really made us realise how much more space there is.

It's coming up great if we do say so 😁
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